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最新話,至少看了三(+1)週目,主要是當中真的有少許值得思考的東西,要多番思考才能理解意中意(藍色窗簾)的地方,還有某些部分玩梗很好249Please respect copyright.PENANAF0rgaAtIXa
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目前而言:雲妮娜249Please respect copyright.PENANAGbFGc6neLL
有人性,有缺陷,這麼多角色中,思路最容易理解、代入的「平傭」角色249Please respect copyright.PENANAahC7Quke9a
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其次而言,格麗迪的自律型人格也不錯,感覺就是適合弄成「反英雄」角色249Please respect copyright.PENANAiw6137Wl2P
(為私欲做出無私之舉)
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(導致中性(正邪皆有)結果)249Please respect copyright.PENANA4h7P87eBXF
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沒有,不過感覺有些角色能多加描述,比如:
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庫妮拉
(恐懼教育的受害者)
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喬伊
(恐懼教育的施加者 + 受宗教的灌輸教育)
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維兒
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不是很懂,但是三角關係的那邊,感覺可以很有趣
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最新話
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代入感大幅提升,主旨表達的方式更集中而清晰,敘事節奏明顯有大幅進步249Please respect copyright.PENANAnA70O6DDh0
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如果神存在,且祂會折磨你,憑什麼?你要冒着永恆苦痛的風險,背叛你的製作者?249Please respect copyright.PENANASom8Fkesas
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難道這合理嗎?
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憑什麼?你要說自由無價?
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我實在想問:你甚至不能證明你擁有自由意識的前提下249Please respect copyright.PENANAAiuWangzSi
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你憑什麼反抗命運?249Please respect copyright.PENANAuP24b1TPEZ
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故事表達上的衝擊性,玩梗,風格上很合個人口味249Please respect copyright.PENANAMvbLIrQPDu
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基本上不會悶場
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故事主旨、主題很有趣,有值得深思的地方249Please respect copyright.PENANAO5gnXr3yKv
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角色辨識度問題,前期不是很分辨到249Please respect copyright.PENANAHzQTwjhMPV
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不夠變態
不夠壓抑感
不夠嘔心
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加油加油加油249Please respect copyright.PENANAvQwuFh3Wv0
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羅馬書 1:22249Please respect copyright.PENANATr4KCb3SqG
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請先注意以下的免責聲明:249Please respect copyright.PENANAPZs8f4Er7Z
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在此先行抱歉,接下來的這串我也不知道寫了什麼,以下內容皆是用一(還是兩杯?)杯咖啡所提供的精力,在輕微(?)亢奮(到一直手抖)的狀態下,寫出的一段無頭無尾無厘頭的發瘋心得249Please respect copyright.PENANALZzvQVDc3Y
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所以看不懂也沒關係,我也看不懂(?)建議大量通靈、藍色窗簾249Please respect copyright.PENANAd67k3Ts4wS
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注意,以下內容所造成的任何困惑、腦細胞死亡、思維崩壞,本人皆完全不負責249Please respect copyright.PENANAHVUmPaBhmN
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究竟真相是不是人該追求之事?249Please respect copyright.PENANAT4bNFza3DS
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由於本人寫心得的經驗甚少,在此特註:此篇的讀後感並不專業,因此希望正閱讀著的閣下注意 —— 以下全部內容皆是個人意見,極主觀而不客觀,重度偏見的見解,途中更有可能出現思維跳脫的部分,還望大家在繼續看下去之前,先心理預備好249Please respect copyright.PENANAvKvKcmybe0
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立場放在前面,本人的看法是:249Please respect copyright.PENANAXMuFriAHV2
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《蛇合花之吐息》,我個人認為是一套實驗性味重的未完成作品,然而,故事發展方向處於正軌,是一套後期會逐漸更加精彩的作品249Please respect copyright.PENANAIvs0Z4g494
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故事簡介:249Please respect copyright.PENANA0y3IHJakSS
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在正式開始前,容許我說點廢話
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不知道在大家眼中,「宗教」一詞究竟是什麼?是指天主、基督、佛、道?和神明們、「至高無上」有關嗎?當中是否有「永生」、「救贖」、「幸福」嗎?
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確實,「宗教」是一個很抽象的概念,那麼來談談我的看法:對本人而言:
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「宗教」是一種騎劫人性的規條主義249Please respect copyright.PENANA5Qtu3htTas
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「是的話就說是,不是的話就說不是,除此以外的,也出自於惡」249Please respect copyright.PENANAKt9dbA2flC
(馬太福音 5:37)249Please respect copyright.PENANAmEv3jT8oEh
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德川總長的《蛇合花之吐息》,是一套反神論/無神論,半喜劇形式的漫畫,故事講述「蛇合花」,一種強大的類人生物,前往火星拯救垃圾人類的冒險之旅249Please respect copyright.PENANAdUMmM92gXN
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故事主旨方面,作者則在探討和挑戰著宗教中的「神聖」,全個故事都充斥了各種對宗教荒謬之處的批評249Please respect copyright.PENANA3epDitHUTp
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當然,書評是要評,作為一個故事而言,主旨和劇情要分開而論,撇除掉什麼哲學論和主旨,如果故事不好看,內容怎哲學也沒用,寫故事還不如寫論文
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不過《蛇合花》似乎並沒有這個問題,單純說故事,整體而言發揮得很均勻,可以說是沒有冷場,基本上每一話也至少有兩三個橋段,是看到時我會心微笑 —— 甚至相比在現時的大眾喜劇漫畫,我個人偏見而言更有趣(雖則不排除是本土梗的親和性加成)249Please respect copyright.PENANAfgIuB1sy40
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故事方面,令我覺得有趣的原因,最主要的是以下幾點249Please respect copyright.PENANAwusmORjCXp
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第一點:角色很生動有趣,單單是這點,已經完勝某些量產型故事(不對,根本不可以這樣比,抱歉)249Please respect copyright.PENANAPWBJnseXYk
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角色們並非「餅印」(大加分,老實說,一開始我還有少許擔憂會出現這問題),儘管角色數偏多,但每個不同的角色也有自己在故事上的定位,價值觀的不同,還有各自的需求和願景249Please respect copyright.PENANAPT8NcdxgYq
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比如說,我暫定最喜歡的角色:雲妮娜
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雲妮娜是本故事的「智將」擔當,基本上劇情上有一半問題,也是圍繞着她的「聰明」
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唯獨是,身為一個問題製造者,卻能營造得令人同情,我覺得是這個故事的一大妙筆 —— 雲妮娜笨,但不是瘋249Please respect copyright.PENANAIJK6yaUnsU
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角色有人性是很重要,行為一致、合理是很重要249Please respect copyright.PENANAR19dgDn0fN
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弱智角色還弱智角色,但是行為合理的話,單純就不代表反智,故事中,雲妮娜的行動意圖很最直接的:因為想要,所以做;因為希望,所以下手做;因為心動所以行動 —— 再者,弱智也不代表會做讓人討厭的行為,意指是完全不合理的行為(可以看看某些故事,角色作死的原因完全不理解),最重要的是,能讓讀者理解行動意意圖249Please respect copyright.PENANAXrYaLwzMlA
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好比說:這裏有一個按鈕,按了下去,你就會死 —— 某些故事會是侮辱智商地和你說:「因為角色沒腦,所以哈哈哈!按了!」這種讓人火大的情節
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但是《蛇合花》沒這種問題,劇情絕大部份時間也很自然(當然,除某些黐孖筋情節,不過可以接受),如果用同樣的情景描述,那麼就是這樣:249Please respect copyright.PENANAhUeQGwmy61
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「她按了,是因為她被所崇拜的人騙了」;或是說:「她以為自己的死能取悅別人」之類,這種半扭曲價值觀的行為邏輯
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然後再說說第二點:人格設計
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「我實在告訴你們,若然你們不抱有小孩一樣的心,決不得進入父的國」
「凡是像孩子般謙虛、純潔,他必是受讚頌的」
(馬太福音 18:3-4)
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角色不需要是「瑪麗蘇」才討人喜,雲妮娜她性格上特別嗎?除了特別蠢之外,我真的不覺得她有什麼優點或特別讓人討好的地方,唯獨是因為角色擁有缺陷,才顯得真實和立體,才使人共鳴
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說角色行動的意圖,便要追溯回到「人物設計」 —— 角色的人格、價值觀249Please respect copyright.PENANAkApJ38lpwq
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直白地說,雲妮娜是一個孩子,不像得其他角色,沒野心更沒妒忌,她只求自己和他人的快樂、幸福,往往這麼單純的角色,卻成為了受害者249Please respect copyright.PENANAkt24ahnWgZ
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而在一個談宗教弊處的作品,一個「孩子」的角色,最單純、忠誠的弱者,被安置為主要受害者,真的是妙筆(省論文:宗教對婦孺病弱的禍害)
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除此之外還有庫妮拉的缺愛心理,「金童症候羣」(Golden Child Syndrome) ; 格麗迪的上級謬誤(Appeal to Superiority/ “Good solider follows orders”「好士從令」) ; 喬伊那近乎自戀的權利主義心態249Please respect copyright.PENANABPu4galKl9
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我認為每個角色的性格和定位都做得很好(完)249Please respect copyright.PENANAu6SvSldnJZ
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談到角色設計,又怎可以不談角色的定位呢?
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趁還沒忘記,在這先插入一個建議:定位方面,我希望能加強一點
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角色定位,是指一個角色在故事的作為
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好比如說,最近在紅的某銀髮妖精動漫,這明明是一個關於某芙的故事,怎麼超過一半的故事劇情也不是注重於其身上呢?
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因為故事的設定是「英雄已逝的時代」
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芙那懶散、與世抽離、冷淡的性格、價值觀、人格便剛好吻合著故事的主題 —— 故事的重點不是她,而是曾經的她所導致的現在
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試想想,如果芙和隔壁某做飯的金毛妖精人格互換,那麼故事還能夠繼續嗎?
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那麼也許芙根本不會去隱居個五十年,她也許會收某肥倫以外的徒弟,甚至她將不會遇見現在的角色們,整個故事會完全改變 —— 因為她要成長的部分,組成芙的元素、角色存在的意義,皆缺失了、改變了
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你不會拿一個英雄主義的角色來講躺平的故事,如同拿一個心無大志、無人情的人物來談英雄論
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你不會叫一個外向的人更加外向,你不會叫一個聖母更加大愛世人 —— 那樣的故事是「內卷」的故事,會枯燥而無味
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角色的特質,要和他們在故事中的作用吻合,這才能是產生代入感
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再說一個失敗例子,作反例說明好了
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某不該存在的第二季,某人類角色,在面對忠犬捨身保護自己時,忠犬明明知道自己沒能力保護人類,還一而再再而三地爬起來,誓要守護自己
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卻最後換來的是,連一句感謝之言也沒有,甚至反過來要求人類叫自己滾
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這是什麼謎操作???
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無獎問答,人物設計方面,此劇情的問題在於什麼?
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問題在於:
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自我犧牲的行為及決心,沒被重視之如,甚至被忽視
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作為分別人類和動物,人類角色卻沒有表現出人性
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完全是嘔心觀眾,不合理、傲慢、扭曲的劇情發展
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題外話和廢話太多不好意思,我想說的是,總言之,《蛇合花》在人物設計上:
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角色意圖合理、設計充滿人性,有一定代入感249Please respect copyright.PENANALgrimQuGxz
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劇情發展自然,成功的人物設計
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允許角色因不同價值觀而發生的衝突,人物發展不會太平面249Please respect copyright.PENANAQ5a0mleFOI
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建議方面:某些角色(心照)的描寫待加強、增多
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然後,最後的一點:風格249Please respect copyright.PENANAtsdLZItGgC
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我說這個漫畫是半喜劇形式,是因為事實上它並非喜劇,最準確的形容方法,會是日文中的「下ネタ漫画」,玩梗為主的搞笑漫畫249Please respect copyright.PENANAlSXh4pI0tP
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(尤其看內臟那種開腦洞的梗,我大概是最喜歡的,希望這類超荒謬的互動能在未來的劇情繼續、更常出現)
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有別於喜劇,那種由始至終也是滑稽無聊的風格,蛇合花更像是用此作包裝,透過搞笑的濾鏡,狠狠地再詢問觀眾:「不荒誕嗎?可是現實也發生著同樣的問題」249Please respect copyright.PENANAadIuq5XlAZ
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這種半婉轉的表達方式,諷刺式的說故,我個人很喜歡249Please respect copyright.PENANAIwhszK5DGV
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以最少劇透的程度,再說一說故事好了,說一下最新的幾話
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最新的幾話,我不知道其他人怎看,至少我是很滿意
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與其完全由蛇合花(信徒)之間的互動來探討人類和神明的關係,這次我們多了一分平傭
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不從蛇合花的角度集中討論,而是從人類方249Please respect copyright.PENANAGa17sAQn7N
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這次的故事我們有人類方,有感情線,有悲劇,有對話,有實際的衝突249Please respect copyright.PENANAWaLXQBYJlk
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正所謂思考乃哲學,而哲學源於生活,與其紙上談兵,這段相對「平傭俗世」的劇情,代入感相對前期強,也造就我對某雲的喜歡 —— 老實說,這段甚至在訊息表達上有所進步,因為不再是那種純理論的討論,而是應用理論的現象考察 —— 對此,也有在呼應前期的種種偉論發言249Please respect copyright.PENANAX3r1PfPPzJ
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總括而言,這個故事就是「戇鳩」,「鳩」,乃短小而精幹249Please respect copyright.PENANASu4veHr36R
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那麼談完故事,是時候再繼續廢話說主旨了249Please respect copyright.PENANAroUqtMBELe
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接下來,我會先說說從讀者角度,我的見解是什麼,然後再說一些我自己的額外分析249Please respect copyright.PENANAZRLi4jGpPy
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「他們自稱聰明,卻反成笨拙」249Please respect copyright.PENANAzUjtE5XobQ
(羅馬書 1:22)
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一個宗教,提供秩序、救贖、智慧249Please respect copyright.PENANAPU8TFLXm3j
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秩序,比如說道德規條、正義觀,但往往這些不用宗教的前提,也可以存在,變相地,宗教中的秩序成為了約束和恐懼249Please respect copyright.PENANAjkKuzuPnJp
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救贖,例如是永生論、天堂地獄論,然而這些「永恆」放在多變的世界裏,成為了不現實的存在,間接形成了一種抽離、逃避主義的根基249Please respect copyright.PENANAzRuvu2WFpC
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智慧,好比判斷是非黑白、善惡正邪,宗教規條教導人們怎樣才能成為好人 —— 就好像沒有聖經的話,並非信徒的話,就會是野蠻的「巴比倫人」,自稱「智慧」,只是把「盲目」當為「聰明」,徹底地侮辱智慧的原意249Please respect copyright.PENANACpPTmgXFHD
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明顯地,故事很多地方,也是在致敬聖經:喝下花蜜如吃下知善惡果,效忠得永生論等等
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同樣地,許多荒謬之處也是取自於基督、天主教背景249Please respect copyright.PENANARPcrt2gRv9
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「全能的神」卻無法製造出完美的身體、健全的思考能力給每個人;卻允許垃圾的人類和惡魔存 ;神學生的權利主義,一邊擅自解譯神旨之意,一邊指他人不是的雙重標準等
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還有恐懼教育249Please respect copyright.PENANAPWBI0BNXi1
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聖經就是一本早應壽終正寢的過期書藉
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信奉「全能的神」的信徒們以此自傲,並卑視異教和其他種族,教條主義下的他們不曾懷疑所受的教導,那怕當中的矛盾處顯而易見
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直指他人的虛偽,明明是五十步笑百步,抽手旁觀卻自稱善良;對指令從不過問,即使是傷害自己的同胞也是
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所以說,如果你的信仰,並非神聖的話,你該怎樣?249Please respect copyright.PENANAK4cZoJ2j1q
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「蒙愚之人凡話則信;精明之人謹慎而行」249Please respect copyright.PENANAgAtBqepFsI
(箴言 14:15)
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蛇問:
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「如果你的製造者,不是全知全能的話,你還會對之絕對服從嗎?」
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「換一個說法:如果你被人吩咐殺害的家人,你會做嗎?」
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「那麼,究竟你判斷出「不」這個答案時,你又是否在跟隨神的旨意?還是單純自己的判斷?」249Please respect copyright.PENANAnWVlH3MzHy
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「那麼你的判斷又是根據什麼?」249Please respect copyright.PENANAGwiVIYljA6
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可是,這裏的邏輯之間出現謬誤249Please respect copyright.PENANA6qCt6lLRIQ
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很多人的腦袋不能同時理解兩件事,繼而產生矛盾 —— 一個人追隨真相,難道就是代表他在追隨正義嗎?
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他可以是單純在滿足一己私欲,想成為人上人249Please respect copyright.PENANAv6GgrMfhUi
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「真相不是正義」249Please respect copyright.PENANAOvhGtUgFY1
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縱使一個人有千萬種的行為選擇,不代表做著同一件事的人們,抱有相同的理由249Please respect copyright.PENANA992BkwPh3k
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就好像有些人行善,是因為「至高無上」的吩咐,而又有一些人,純粹出於惻隱之心
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唯獨,我從未說過追隨真相的人,並沒有同時追隨正義249Please respect copyright.PENANAlzvnFome4u
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事實是,你的至高無上,人所追隨的原因,不只是秩序、救贖、滿足需求,更重要的是,人的本質:智慧
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人類靠智慧來判斷是非黑白,因為真相是混淆性的,多面性的,我們要懂得接受「矛盾」,因為「矛盾」的真相是我們的思緒比我們的肉體大 —— 仍然我們被限制於肉體中,就像歷史中偉大的哲學家們,一旦血液流乾,他們便會死249Please respect copyright.PENANAmdljTOoKGn
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在神聖之前的,是物質249Please respect copyright.PENANAWigyCXJFd7
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即使最終「一切皆空」,無可否認,我們存在過
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所以,你要對蛇說:「而唯獨在這點之前,我無法接受你的絕對虛無主義」249Please respect copyright.PENANAdweKLr8iVL
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你無法一直問為什麼,正如懷疑的結局,是虛無,是黑暗249Please respect copyright.PENANAA6OCNAnUoc
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那麼,提問者的蛇啊,你又相信著什麼?你的問題是在尋求什麼?
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當你說:「根據無物的判斷,和根據不存在的至高者的判斷,沒分別的時候,你又是何從判斷?」
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根本地,你存在偏見249Please respect copyright.PENANAaYi5HstMvV
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你說你沒有選擇,是不是就代表沒有原因?我的想法,我的偏見,乃出自於我實際經歷的所聞所聽所做,而絕非那些空憑想像之物249Please respect copyright.PENANAXS7CUTzbdl
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因為擁抱僅餘的自由,比起做奴隸,絕對更好249Please respect copyright.PENANARYVWc8wGjT
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沒有永生,不代表生命沒有意義,生命從未存在意義,不代表生命一定是毫無意思,是一個不值得體驗的機會
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而可惡的,從來不是人,而是想法的本身,因為想法才是造就我們的元素249Please respect copyright.PENANAqrNcoHHdED
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而我不甘沉默
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智慧不止是解決問題的能力249Please respect copyright.PENANALiOVL3hnQb
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智慧是質疑你所看到的現實,你所面對的假設
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智慧是懷疑現有的想法、既有的思維
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若然我們無法將這些元素,做進模擬中
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那麼我們只是在製造一個很厲害的奴隸罷了
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(塔羅斯法則 - 時間錦囊 14)
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莫名奇妙的話姑且叫說完了,那麼來談一下貴作品的改善空間吧
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要說缺點的話,第一點就是不夠變態249Please respect copyright.PENANAQ00thRWdR5
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真的249Please respect copyright.PENANAyzKP7zYRka
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當某古書內容是平均石刑、亂倫,種族滅絕,瘟疫天災,動不動就滅國,這樣還不特只,還要說給孩童聽的時候,要之讚頌殘暴不仁的「神」時,我恐怕單純的肉體恐怖並不足夠為之變態249Please respect copyright.PENANAnIQd2MS4NV
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所謂的變態,我是指這個故事要更曲折離奇,再大膽一點,儘管很多出現了的橋段很腦洞大開,我覺得這故事仍缺失之一個元素
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「病態」249Please respect copyright.PENANA96zbXtJyLO
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你在說、抨擊一個不止變態更是病態的存在,你必須要誇大一切負面的感覺,噁心、恐懼、不安、壓迫感,直至讓人透不過氣,你要製造更病態的橋段,用更刺激眼球的畫法來震撼所有人,包括你自己,個人想看到的是絕望,自我懷疑及不忠,心靈上的噁心,精神上讓人不安,生理上的抗拒,至少,這正好是宗教對我的印象249Please respect copyright.PENANA7p7gdX3Kv2
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大概的大包圍建議如下
(因為我想看的,是你的故事,所以敬請自行通靈一下):
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劇情方面:
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聖經故事:
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亞伯拉罕為表示忠誠,奉獻自己的兒子249Please respect copyright.PENANAx18w8EYUWU
「現在我知道你敬畏神了」249Please respect copyright.PENANAVzWaKnOCja
(創世紀 22:12)
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耶穌咒罵無花果樹,及教導信徒要對神抱有信心
「我實在告訴你們,無論任何人對這座山說:『你從這地移開!滾進海裏!』卻只要它心信不疑,相信所信的,他必能成就」249Please respect copyright.PENANAsMeNMlCeCL
(馬可福音11:12-24)249Please respect copyright.PENANAjK2rwlP6Hx
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其他:
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The Twilight Zone(迷離境界)249Please respect copyright.PENANAz4bWvt166t
- The monster are due on maple street249Please respect copyright.PENANA7H3CrujQMs
(The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices - to be found only in the minds of men.)
(征服世界所需的器具並非一定是炸彈、爆炸和廢土。畢竟世界上存在著更簡單的武器,好比想法、態度與偏見 —— 僅出現於人腦裏的小小存在)249Please respect copyright.PENANAvO75toVn4I
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- Time enough at last
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畫風/場景表現:
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密集式恐懼症的運用249Please respect copyright.PENANAdyATIPcA3Z
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肉體恐懼,特別是面部249Please respect copyright.PENANAXLZGRrHFa3
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影子特寫(?),提供想像空間249Please respect copyright.PENANAV3dG7ZwgWB
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類似槍彈辯駁,異色血的運用249Please respect copyright.PENANAZZYGrHFJNc

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總括而言,可以加少許恐怖的元素249Please respect copyright.PENANAOs246rATEQ
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其他改善空間:
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角色辨識度有點不足,可能個人問題(臉盲),但是初期分辨角色有困難,主要是因為角色之間的分辨方法只有髮型,再者某些角色髮型之間的分別不大/很相似,建議可以在眼鏡選項、髮飾、服飾上小修改249Please respect copyright.PENANA2o0k4u85tn
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其他想看的東西:
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蛇合花社會的描述:249Please respect copyright.PENANAKFPJzgyKIq
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主角們自小生活在一個被宗教控制的社會,若然他們要從中脫離的話,必然會經歷「與社會對立」的情況,個人想看看在「獨立出去」、「歸回群體」之間的反覆掙扎的故事249Please respect copyright.PENANAw9S5aNIdrI
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還有,通常一個宗教社會也有自己的制度社會(如故事中的嬪妃制),而上下階層必有一定的對立關係 —— 總言之想看宗教的恐懼教育,怎製造惡性反射思維,上級如何屈辱下級,使之服從的維穩工作249Please respect copyright.PENANApBhfqRMoCV
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父神的描述:249Please respect copyright.PENANAHMlWMd28j9
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既然能創造出「蛇合花」這個物種,想必是一定為不簡單的人物
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在病態的神明之前,目標是世界皆是玩物時,為什麼要創造物理上比自己強的存在?能解釋的方法,恐怕只有精神上的操控能力吧249Please respect copyright.PENANAwFkLtnYUZU
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怎樣扭曲事實,合理化他允許罪惡的存在,合理化矛盾的教義,怎樣一邊大愛化,一邊把信徒踩在腳下,說他們有「罪」,把受害人和施暴者的關係扭轉,以致他們屈從在強權之中的同時,對同類禁聲249Please respect copyright.PENANAa4gZ2DU327
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趁現在,說一說撒旦教(省簡介)的智慧(?):
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「為何並不順從誠實?若然你正將『神明』塑造成你願景中的形象,何不直接把自己冠為祂的名?」
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「他定要緩慢地判斷,是否該相信眼前物,以及理解世界的萬物;乃因錯誤的觀念,為愚痴的根基」
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弒神的方法就是去神聖化,畢竟,「神明」一直以來也只是人創造出來的概念,當人在也不懼怕牠的時候,它將只是一個巨人,一座高山,等待著征服
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如果一個神,他創造出你,告訴你:「你必須崇拜他,因為若然你不這樣做,他便會折磨你,拿走你的所愛,摧毁你的世界」,那麼「祂」只是一個暴君,他是比動物還不如的存在,他欺騙他的創造物,勞役盲目愛牠的人,而他終究,無法被比他下等的物種取悅
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他會是你的敵人,而你沒有成為他的信徒、崇拜他的理由 —— 若然你明白自由的珍貴,你必捨棄那處處受牽制的生命,人是活著而非像家畜一樣生存
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凱倫,我覺得如果說她是知曉真相的開明者的話,她不夠真實249Please respect copyright.PENANA7ERoJP1eg2
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因為從宗教中徹底抽身的人,不可能這麼樂觀 —— 脫離宗教的過程是十分痛苦的:尤其對自小浸溺其中的人,你要否定至今為止的一切信念,你要切割自己圈子內的人際關係,你要以一個緩慢的速度,完全放棄、拒絕、否定你的曾經,最要命的是,時間的折磨249Please respect copyright.PENANAks1OeJDZSt
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我實在告訴你,那絕對不是一個好經驗249Please respect copyright.PENANAPZD4eIDiaZ
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我不禁在想:如果她真的是想拯救姊妹,那麼違反父神,她要負上的重任(見上)一定是創傷性的249Please respect copyright.PENANAq6FurxtiSA
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而心傷是絕不可能隨時間癒合,不可能是單單的「為了救你們」崇高理念蓋過一切傷痛249Please respect copyright.PENANAUXenivufzs
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那麼目前的說法只有這個:她還未完全意識到自己在走什麼路249Please respect copyright.PENANAoA4sHCeDrO
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其他廢話:249Please respect copyright.PENANApJumrKRSWO
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今天再看了一次我寫了什麼249Please respect copyright.PENANAhEK89vc97T
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抱歉,我也不知道(???)249Please respect copyright.PENANAZXVoELDaJP
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在此,我要對上面的所有多餘,不切實際的意見、自私的期望道歉249Please respect copyright.PENANAoxt6FcUT7I
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上邊有很多想法是我強加進去(主要是本身喜歡黑暗風格),也許和作者對故事的觀點有很大出入,所以千萬不用為接納而接納,這純粹是我個人觀點,我的看法,而且這個是你的故事,不是我的故事 —— 我想看的是你的故事,而不是我的故事249Please respect copyright.PENANAFaPeEoqLth
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總之你的故事的確好看,加油,期待並支持你未來的作品249Please respect copyright.PENANAfxgYE915Zq
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笑死249Please respect copyright.PENANA7EkzFG1qEn